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Hi, welcome back to New World Rising, where we explore
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the extraordinary shifts and changes happening right now on the
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planet and what it means in your life. I'm your host,
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Randi Botnick. I have spent the last 30 years working
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as a psychic healer, a channel, and a clinical hypnotherapist.
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And what these modalities have in common is that they
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shift consciousness to access healing and information that isn't available
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in ordinary reality. Over the years, I've had experiences and
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encounters that have changed the way I understand the world
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and our place in it. And that left me with
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a slew of questions and only some answers. And that's
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ultimately what led me to this podcast. So here I
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talk about what people are figuring out now as truths
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about our humanness and our connection to the world. And
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I talk about the spiritual truths handed down to us
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and what's possible for us moving forward. Because I think
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that we have a lot of opportunity now to be
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more connected and powerful than we ever have before. I'm
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not starting any of these conversations claiming to have everything
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figured out. I'm coming with decades of experience, a lot
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of questions, and a willingness to follow the information wherever
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it takes us. And if you're here, you're probably sensing
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something is changing too, in you, in the world, in
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what's possible. And you're right. And this podcast is for you.
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So today, we have this incredible guest with a fascinating story.
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Robert Hayden is here to tell us what he discovered
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about life, our life, all of life, humanity, and after
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a near-death experience that he had. And this is something
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that truly may change your life. So we're going to
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bring him on now.
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Hey, Randy. Hey, Robert. Welcome, welcome.
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Thank you so much for being here today, specifically live,
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because I know you had a little stressor on the
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way to the studio. So thanks for coming.
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Yes.
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So, um, you have written a book called, um, birth
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song and this book came from a near death experience
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that you had, right? Where you found that there's like
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the truth of a beauty of humanity or the soul
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that is here for everyone. Is that how to say it?
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I'd love for you to explain that.
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There's lots of ways. And yeah, thank you. I'm so
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grateful to be here, Randy. Yeah, that was back in
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2013 was my actual near-death experience. But, you know, my
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journey with that actually started before I was born. And, yeah, yeah,
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I had a twin sister that died in the womb
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and did not know about that in life, was never told.
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And I had survivor's guilt my entire life for decades of,
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you know, that sense of I don't deserve, I'm not worthy. And,
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you know, a lot of us, we all know that,
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you know, that feeling of I'm not worthy and And so.
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You had that without knowing that you had this twin?
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Without knowing. But, you know, if anybody has gotten their
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birth natal chart done or met with a Akashic Records
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teacher or both, they know that we set this life
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up before we come here. And so I had designed
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this life to kind of hold myself down. for the
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first five decades and then not hold myself down. And
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so the recalibration I got was a near-death experience and
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a remembering of who that was in the womb with me.
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And it was quite a healing, but it took It
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took years to unfold because even when I had my
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near-death experience and crossed over, I had no idea.
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I had.
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A twin, and she ended up in my near-death experience.
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She was my guide that crossed me over, but I
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didn't know who she was. I just knew we were
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intimately connected. And, yeah, it was really special. Maybe I
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should share a little bit of that experience. I would
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love that.
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Yeah, please do. How did you, was it a, you know,
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what kind of accident was it that caused that? And
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I would love to know because I do work with
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a lot of people who've had near-death experiences, you know.
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And it can often be very quick, right? Very, very quick,
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but you get the insights of a lifetime within that moment.
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Right, yeah. The commonality is a huge life perspective shift.
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That's one of the big ones. Um, and so, yeah,
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so it, you know, a lot of people tend to
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think of a near death experiences, you know, you just
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shot off with, you know, like a rocket and this
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is more like a two or three stage rocket, you know, different,
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different boosters. Um, and so it unfolded and, um, I
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didn't like. Boom, I was healed, came back, understood everything. No.
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It was a recalibration that was healing, but I had
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to integrate that. And a lot was still not revealed
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to me on purpose. So, yeah, back in 2013, I
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was freaking out for a year. I was going to
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have a heart attack. No reason. I was in perfect health.
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I talked my doctor into playing fetch with this, and
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he allowed me to go see a cardiologist and had
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a whole morning workup, and I was in perfect health.
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Mr.
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Hayden, you're fine. But it didn't matter. That knowing that
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I was going to have a heart attack, it was
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more than just a concern. It was like a knowing.
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It just wouldn't stop. coming in it wouldn't leave my
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body and you know i was kind of a carefree
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guy and it was so unlike me to be worrying
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about something like that but when i look back on
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it i'm like wow that is just like like i
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knew covid was coming for a year and a half
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i knew the energy of it uh knew something's coming
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that's going to shift the self of everybody. Nobody's immune.
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But I didn't know what it was until about a
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month in. I'm like, oh, this is what I knew
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was coming. And so I've had lots of moments, and
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maybe people listening have had lots of moments where they
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have this knowing, and then it stops coming into their
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body once they experience it. Can I just.
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Say that one of the things for meâ when, and
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it was in my thirties for me, but the sense
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that I was going to be healer came in really strong,
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even before I had any clear clarity around whether even
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that meant, you know, I didn't know at all what
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it meant. I just felt like I was supposed to
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be healing with my hands. It was such a strong, strong,
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strong sense. And then, uh, and then yes, over the
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years it unfolded. But, um, so I know exactly what
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you're talking about. It's like, We have these moments sometimes,
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if we're lucky enough, where life sort of happens to
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us instead of us thinking that we have everything in
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control and that we understand things and we're on a path.
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It can be very sudden that we're taken into something
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really brilliantly different.
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Yeah, especially as we're walking out of the age of
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separation into the age of frequency, and we're going to
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experience where we already are. Of course. More and more
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and more and more.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I did not have to get
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hit by a bus, which, thank God, I know lots
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and lots of people that have had a near-death experience
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that have gone through horrific physical trauma. Yeah. And I
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did not, and thank you. And this is one of
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the ways our soul can work with us and recalibrate
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us in a certain point in life. But as we're
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going into the age of frequency, we do not need
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something like a near-death experience to recalibrate us. We're going
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to be so connected, we will not need that. Just
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like our dream time is soul time. It's when our
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higher self can work with us because we've gotten out
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of our way. Right.
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And it can be that smooth. And as long as
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we're open to the change and we don't sit there
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and question it. well, I don't know what so many
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people go into. I don't know what this is.
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Why, why, why?
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What's happening? What's happening? What if we didn't do that
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and instead just rode the wave of whatever it is
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that's coming for us, that the higher self wants for us,
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that we're here for without having any clarity about it?
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And just let it unfold, which sounds like exactly what
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you did.
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Yeah, yeah. And you'll hear in a minute that what
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I went through in Crossing Realms was a very, I
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realized later, was a very universal process about allowing and
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surrendering people. And getting back to nothing to get to everything.
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And yes, so what ended up transpiring, it was in
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dream time and it was at night and it was
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not just a dream. My dad had a dream institute
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and we worked our dreams. You know, 2013, I hadn't
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started my spiritual journey, but I had worked big dreams
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with my dad, and I was familiar with dreams, and
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this was so much more. And you know the energy, like,
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you know, when you're having a dream and you have
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a visitation from an ancestor, the energy is completely different.
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You know this is not another character in the dream.
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It's a visitation, right? You feel it. You feel... the frequency,
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you recognize their frequency. Yeah. And so what happened in
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this dream space, I was laying in a hotel bed
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in this experience and I was just admiring the mountain
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view out the window. And all of a sudden I
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realized there's this woman standing right by my bed. Oh
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my God, a beautiful human being. And immediately we connected,
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we locked eyes and And it's like we threaded in, oh,
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my goodness, I know this person intimately, like more intimately
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than I have ever known anyone. It was like this
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homecoming kind of a feeling. And just she was smiling
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at me. I was smiling at her. And this is
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kind of where the paradox began. There was a lot
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of paradox in this experience. And so the paradox of
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being intimately connected with somebody I physically did not recognize
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at all. And just smiling and having a beautiful moment,
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all these feelings going back and forth. And all of
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a sudden it happened.
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Boom!
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I started having a heart attack. And... my chest rips open,
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my heart muscles cramping in. It feels like a knife
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or two. I'm like coughing while I'm saying that. There
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you go.
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My whole chest is clamping up while you're talking about this. Sorry,
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too empathic.
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And I couldn't breathe. I couldn't breathe. I was gasping
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for air. And I said, help, help. And she just
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smiled at me. And I was like, no, no, call
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an ambulance. And she just smiled. And I'm like, I'm
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going through my head. I'm like, what do I need
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to do to get this person to help me? They
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don't understand. But we're so intimately connected. And at this point,
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I start to realize. This connection has so much trust
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with it. I've never had so much trust with somebody. I,
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you know, 500% trust this person. And she came and
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she sat down on the bed right beside me. She
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put her hand on my abdomen. Oh, my gosh, Randy.
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I had never felt such a warm connection ever. It was,
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I didn't see that coming. I didn't know you could
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have such a warm connection like that. It was beautiful.
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And it was that paradox of having this beautiful connection,
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yet I'm having this heart attack and I can't breathe
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and I'm dying at this point. And in fact, that
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was my last kind of like, didn't have any words
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left to say because I couldn't breathe. And I was like,
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I'm dying. And she looked at me. And she said,
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I know you're dying, but I'm going to be here
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with you while you die. I don't understand. I don't
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understand what's going on, but I trust her 500%. And
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then I am dying. At some point here, blackness begins
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to come in, like pieces of blackness. And then it's
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just all the blackness. And I fade to nothing. And
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it's like if you got knocked by a rock unconscious.
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You don't exist. Time doesn't exist. Nobody exists. And I
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was in that blackness for however long. And then at
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some point, I was like, wait, I'm coming out of
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the blackness. I'm holding her hand and we're walking in nothing.
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And nothing's different than blackness. Like I could see energetically then.
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And I could sense her presence, her frequency. And then
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the blackness faded in again. It was all blackness. And
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for however long. And, you know, luckily, a couple of, well,
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several years later, my teacher, Tiffany Barasotti and Paul Mills,
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I was having coffee with them and I shared this experience.
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And they said, oh, Robert, that when you were going
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through the blackness and then through the nothing holding her hand,
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that's when your sister was taking you across many realms
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at once. In the blackness, she was taking you across
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many realms. And then she stopped in a realm, adjusted
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you energetically, and then leaped again across. So no telling.
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So it's not like, oh, I was two realms from here.
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There's no telling.
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But.
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You'll know when I got there. So out of that
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last blackness, I'm coming to out of the blackness. It's
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fading away. And I'm laying in a bed again in